You are right that this version of Ruins (Retuned) is still a bit to open, but no more so then Two Caves or Frogs Lair. Of course, nothing is final so i may alter it some more to make it more enjoyable for all classes. The version you talked about is still there though, just vote for Ruins.
two caves is not that appreciated by players but frog lair is, and that's for a simple fact. frog lair has a gathering point in the middle while two caves and ruins, in this case, is just a big field with few stuff around to fill the map. spawns play a huge role too. you can have a big ass map but if the spawns are placed good, no one will complain about distance, spawn kills or unbalance.
As long as we are talking about maps, are you working on any new stuff Elary?
no and i don't intend to.