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[WingedEggJuice]

'In fact, I'm always subjected to hate speech because of my country', played longer than you and as long as you have played that's a lie right off the bat, I've never seen people hate on you for being Turkish I'm certain 99% of the server have no idea what your Nationality is because nobody knows who you are even.

Someone that is subject to actual hate speech about being Turkish that's I've seen, and I don't mean people jabbing fun at him with 'terrorist kebab' but serious hate speech would be someone like GOKTURK, I've never once seen him give a shit or care to post about it even though is GENERALLY harassed, not this shit you're posting here.

Further more, the whole community is Toxic everyone picks on everyone else's nationality. Do have selective reading where you ignore all the other abuse on the server that happens literally every second of the day but the second someone jokes around with you because you're butthurt randomly you feel gravely offended. You should see what people write about me day-to-day about me being a specific gender and Swedish; guess what, I don't care c:.

I would argue this community is probably not for you if you're offended by such trivial dumb insults, a monkey could literally make better insults than 'terrorist kebab' but your response and how you reacted to such a dumb ass saying is what made it so amusing in the first place. You seriously need a thicker skin, if I was you I'd take some time away from the internet in general and do some soul-searching or hide in a cave out in the wilderness somewhere to protect yourself from such hateful terms and phrases like 'terrorist kebab' what a hurtful thing to say to someone, boohoo 

[Elary]

Are you getting the upper hand by editing my comment ? It's an unsurprising move from an executive who supports racist and hostile statements on the Troll Game site.

Anyway. Rule number one on your link was clearly violated by Egg. "This should sum up anything from *excessive verbal harassment* to other players like rudeness, spam, toxicity, annoying behaviour,flaming, recruiting other players to harass a particular player or group of players, making fun of a serious situation of players(...)"

based on your assumptions ,i see this is going no where. 

 

how i have an upper hand by trying to avoid any further spam and providing you the channel trough which we keep the order on our servers?

 

i don't support anything of this kind and i'm baffled you assumed that just because your report doesn't fall up with what our rules enforces. if you are unhappy with our rule system and how we deal with issues, you can always go search a server with a better implemented rule system.  

 

from your perspective, in the story you are always the protagonist and others are the antagonists. this is the bigger picture: i'm just the reader, the neutral party. i don't take your side but neither Egg's side. as i said and as Umbuz said, your case is not directed towards you personally, i don't understand why this is repeated and still misunderstood. "This should sum up anything from *excessive verbal harassment* to other players" 

 

your screenshots and what is written inside them is not enough to enforce common courtesy. hope i cleared any misunderstandings now. if not, well i've done anything in my power.

 

if we can't keep this civil, i see no point in going further.

[Gilby]

I don't even have these opinions on Turkey as I have Turkish friends ingames, but when you bring it up multiple times ingame over a matter of days constantly and I realise you're butthurt I'm going to meme you. Quite literally after the first few lines of dialogue between us I was evidently bored (read the logs) where I start going 'oh wow cool, wow that's so cool' because I was done talking to you.

In short, blame yourself, not me lmfao.

"I'm giving you hate speech because I'm bored, Gilby," words that would suit a hateful one named Egg lol. If you think what you're doing is a joke, you're having psychological problems, Egg. I suggest you look for healthier ways to have fun.

[Gilby]

'In fact, I'm always subjected to hate speech because of my country', played longer than you and as long as you have played that's a lie right off the bat, I've never seen people hate on you for being Turkish I'm certain 99% of the server have no idea what your Nationality is because nobody knows who you are even.

Someone that is subject to actual hate speech about being Turkish that's I've seen, and I don't mean people jabbing fun at him with 'terrorist kebab' but serious hate speech would be someone like GOKTURK, I've never once seen him give a shit or care to post about it even though is GENERALLY harassed, not this shit you're posting here.

Further more, the whole community is Toxic everyone picks on everyone else's nationality. Do have selective reading where you ignore all the other abuse on the server that happens literally every second of the day but the second someone jokes around with you because you're butthurt randomly you feel gravely offended. You should see what people write about me day-to-day about me being a specific gender and Swedish; guess what, I don't care c:.

I would argue this community is probably not for you if you're offended by such trivial dumb insults, a monkey could literally make better insults than 'terrorist kebab' but your response and how you reacted to such a dumb ass saying is what made it so amusing in the first place. You seriously need a thicker skin, if I was you I'd take some time away from the internet in general and do some soul-searching or hide in a cave out in the wilderness somewhere to protect yourself from such hateful terms and phrases like 'terrorist kebab' what a hurtful thing to say to someone, boohoo 

An empty comment.

[WingedEggJuice]

Nawwwh lil Gibly is sad he couldn't get me in trouble over nothing after making a pointless thread nobody cares about  

[Gilby]

I'm not trying to put you in trouble, Egg, don't confuse me with you. I'm afraid you're the one who's hateful and looks like a jerk in this position, but that would be a compliment to you lul

[WingedEggJuice]

I'm not trying to put you in trouble, Egg, don't confuse me with you. I'm afraid you're the one who's hateful and looks like a jerk in this position, but that would be a compliment to you lul

Well you came on and apologised to me for the drama, and I did respond saying for what as I don't feel as if you did anything wrong. You just need to not take things to heart, especially shitty trolling like that. You'd know if I wanted to be really offensive.

[Gilby]

Well you came on and apologised to me for the drama, and I did respond saying for what as I don't feel as if you did anything wrong. You just need to not take things to heart, especially shitty trolling like that. You'd know if I wanted to be really offensive.

 

When did I apologize? I think you mean, at the beginning of the speech last night, I told you I was angry because you called my country a terrorist, and then when you said I told you that, I realized it was just a troll and said sorry, but then you acted like a complete toxic and said the opposite of that word, here are the log records. I don't have a problem with you personally, and I'm not trying to bring it up, and I'm not trying to get back at you. I just don't think his words are true. People don't always have to underestimate the jokes you make out of boredom, which I think you say pretty heavy things, along with Johny's idiot. Your words didn't bother me, but I think they're not true, and I think that's direct hate speech.Anyway, you insist you're joking. It's a much more positive message, at least more respectful. You don't have to be completely toxic and act like an asshole.

[Kamby]

I also made a ban appeal about something i felt was unfair, but in the end its the admins who decide what the rules are. If you feel the rules are unfair or unjust just remove yourself from the server, or mute the people who you feel harassed by. I learned that very quickly on TrollGame and tbf the whole toxic environment with trolls are what makes 90% of people return to the servers. Its entertaining.

[Umbuz]

If you are adult enough to not get hurt by such jokes you should be adult enough not to make such jokes . This is not about controlling "free speech", this is about making the community healthy as possible. People come here to spend their free time after hard day at work or school. They don't need that negativity in their life. After all this is just a game, so please make this place as fun as you can and keep your xenophobic opinions to yourself.

 

I agree with Elary on this. This is the best balance we have come to. People can have different interpretations of a healthy community. Tolerating a bit of negativity in the form of edgy jokes is not considered unhealthy in this community. This is what I understood during the past few years as a player and an admin and it seems to be working.

In this case, I believe Egg went beyond the lines in the parts he focused on Gilby as an individual, and if I had seen their conversation from the beginning, I would have warned her.

[Gilby]

I agree with Elary on this. This is the best balance we have come to. People can have different interpretations of a healthy community. Tolerating a bit of negativity in the form of edgy jokes is not considered unhealthy in this community. This is what I understood during the past few years as a player and an admin and it seems to be working.

In this case, I believe Egg went beyond the lines in the parts he focused on Gilby as an individual, and if I had seen their conversation from the beginning, I would have warned her.

 

Don't administrators have a chance to access the chat history?

[Umbuz]

Well you came on and apologised to me for the drama, and I did respond saying for what as I don't feel as if you did anything wrong. You just need to not take things to heart, especially shitty trolling like that. You'd know if I wanted to be really offensive.

 

Please refrain from excessive edgy jokes in the chat as we might consider them as instances of toxicity and subject to punishment. Do not direct your edgy jokes towards anyone in particular in the future.

Gilby, please read the rules and let us know if anyone focuses on you as an individual in the future. You are more than welcome to speak Turkish in the chat and no one has the right to mock/insult you excessively because of your race, religion, etc. Please be more tolerant towards such jokes and avoid engaging in conversations with people who make them, but if you think they are going beyond the lines in the number of instances, report them here.

 

 

Don't administrators have a chance to access the chat history?

 

Some do.

Edited by Umbuz, 20 March 2021 - 08:42 PM.

[Gilby]

Please refrain from excessive edgy jokes in the chat as we might consider it as an instance of toxicity and subject to punishment and do not direct your edgy jokes towards anyone in particular in the future.

Gilby, please read the rules and let us know if anyone focuses on you as an individual in the future. You are more than welcome to speak Turkish in the chat and no one has the right to mock/insult you excessively. Please be more tolerant towards such jokes, but if you think they are going beyond the lines, report them here.

 

 

 

Some do.

 

If you have access and if you read it, you can see how the debate started but I think it would be unnecessary for you to read, a troll's edgy jokes aren't worth it. Thank you for your constructive language   I'll read the rules again.

[WingedEggJuice]

When did I apologize? I think you mean, at the beginning of the speech last night, I told you I was angry because you called my country a terrorist, and then when you said I told you that, I realized it was just a troll and said sorry, but then you acted like a complete toxic and said the opposite of that word, here are the log records. I don't have a problem with you personally, and I'm not trying to bring it up, and I'm not trying to get back at you. I just don't think his words are true. People don't always have to underestimate the jokes you make out of boredom, which I think you say pretty heavy things, along with Johny's idiot. Your words didn't bother me, but I think they're not true, and I think that's direct hate speech.Anyway, you insist you're joking. It's a much more positive message, at least more respectful. You don't have to be completely toxic and act like an asshole.

You literally came on earlier and said sorry about it earlier...? what... well then it was someone else, idk and I don't care either tbh. If you don't believe me ask an admin to check logs not that they should, this whole thing is so dumb.

You're speaking to someone who was wrongfully banned (not on behalf of the admin team) but for perm before I found it was some asshole pretending to be me for 4 months+. I know the rules bae, if you feel that strongly about this take your worthless screens to ban appeals and make a report although the admins will tell you the same thing.

And yeah you're right, terrorist kebab is a joke. The reason you find it offensive is because of your nationalities struggle with terrorists etc something boring like that, as has mine lmfao. Is Turkey the only country that has dealt and lost service men to organised terrorist groups or something, my country men went on tour during the heat of the middle east since 9/11 as have service men and women of my new home and a country I hold dear, the UK. What is actually the problem?

This literally all comes from saying 'terrorist kebab'. Please stop now because it bores me having to respond to this dumb ass thread and it probably hurts the admins heads more because they have to actually try to approach this seriously and it's just a waste of their time. Let it be dead, for their sake and so you don't cry I will never bring up kebabs of any sort if I see you on the server, you get special treatment from Queen Mother EggJuice <3

[WingedEggJuice]

Please refrain from excessive edgy jokes in the chat as we might consider them as instances of toxicity and subject to punishment. Do not direct your edgy jokes towards anyone in particular in the future.

Gilby, please read the rules and let us know if anyone focuses on you as an individual in the future. You are more than welcome to speak Turkish in the chat and no one has the right to mock/insult you excessively because of your race, religion, etc. Please be more tolerant towards such jokes and avoid engaging in conversations with people who make them, but if you think they are going beyond the lines in the number of instances, report them here.

 

 

 

Some do.

No problem with that, also tell it to everyone else on the server then because if you want a real headache I will appeal every slice of victimisation / racism unto others unto the server which are clearly jokes. Rules apply to everyone, not one rule for one and a rule for another. Let's let not forget that I didn't break any rules anyway or I'd never have even bother typing, if you hadn't noticed I don't even say anything anymore look at all the times SLAVEMASTER tries to bate me and there isn't a peep from me lmfao.

But I'll be a good girl and report 2000 times everyday whenever I see something np bae.

[Aratar]

On a side note:

 

 

Let's not elaborate.

Although EggJuice was clearly trying to provoke you, all I see are almost legitimate questions he raised and jokes almost as old as the internet, such as "muslim terrorist kebab". It might be a natural reaction to try to inform others who might be in the wrong, but context also matters. Of course everyone on the internet has a PhD and 900 citations inside the academy but a Warband server in which anyone can say anything with or without basis is not a context that requires serious conversation hence it's not a platform to seriously be offended on.

 

This does not, in any way, mean that we promote racist and/or serious hateful talks. We only try to promote somewhat experienced internet usage. And we are definetly not supposed to be teachers who can change a person's real life views by dictating everything he/she can or can't say about certain topics on an online platform. We intervene when it's excessive so that it damages the general experience of the community or that it's sharply directed towards an individual.

 

And remember, "İzahı olmayan şeyin mizahı olur." which very roughly translates to "If you can't explain it make fun of it."

 

or I kill you

[WingedEggJuice]

On a side note:

 

 

Let's not elaborate.

Although EggJuice was clearly trying to provoke you, all I see are almost legitimate questions he raised and jokes almost as old as the internet, such as "muslim terrorist kebab". It might be a natural reaction to try to inform others who might be in the wrong, but context also matters. Of course everyone on the internet has a PhD and 900 citations inside the academy but a Warband server in which anyone can say anything with or without basis is not a context that requires serious conversation hence it's not a platform to seriously be offended on.

 

This does not, in any way, mean that we promote racist and/or serious hateful talks. We only try to promote somewhat experienced internet usage. And we are definetly not supposed to be teachers who can change a person's real life views by dictating everything he/she can or can't say about certain topics on an online platform. We intervene when it's excessive so that it damages the general experience of the community or that it's sharply directed towards an individual.

 

And remember, "İzahı olmayan şeyin mizahı olur." which very roughly translates to "If you can't explain it make fun of it."

 

or I kill you

I have literally just logged in, SLAVEMASTER has tried provoking me in chat and then Gilby goes at length going on about my 'mental health' and because I'm from Sweden all I know is 'ice' and that because I'm Swedish I'm 'Boring'.

The irony, but apparently I cannot call someone a Kebab lmfao. Check the logs. Please do not take this retard seriously, oh my god.

[Gilby]

On a side note:

 

 

Let's not elaborate.

Although EggJuice was clearly trying to provoke you, all I see are almost legitimate questions he raised and jokes almost as old as the internet, such as "muslim terrorist kebab". It might be a natural reaction to try to inform others who might be in the wrong, but context also matters. Of course everyone on the internet has a PhD and 900 citations inside the academy but a Warband server in which anyone can say anything with or without basis is not a context that requires serious conversation hence it's not a platform to seriously be offended on.

 

This does not, in any way, mean that we promote racist and/or serious hateful talks. We only try to promote somewhat experienced internet usage. And we are definetly not supposed to be teachers who can change a person's real life views by dictating everything he/she can or can't say about certain topics on an online platform. We intervene when it's excessive so that it damages the general experience of the community or that it's sharply directed towards an individual.

 

And remember, "İzahı olmayan şeyin mizahı olur." which very roughly translates to "If you can't explain it make fun of it."

 

or I kill you

 

I mean, egg was talking about marrying rapists is common in the East, and it's common among Kurds. I mean that. Do you think it's right to try to provoke people by telling them that their country and he are terrorists?

[Gilby]

I have literally just logged in, SLAVEMASTER has tried provoking me in chat and then Gilby goes at length going on about my 'mental health' and because I'm from Sweden all I know is 'ice' and that because I'm Swedish I'm 'Boring'.

The irony, but apparently I cannot call someone a Kebab lmfao. Check the logs. Please do not take this retard seriously, oh my god.

I just tried to provoke you with your country, like you  

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[Gilby]

You literally came on earlier and said sorry about it earlier...? what... well then it was someone else, idk and I don't care either tbh. If you don't believe me ask an admin to check logs not that they should, this whole thing is so dumb.

You're speaking to someone who was wrongfully banned (not on behalf of the admin team) but for perm before I found it was some asshole pretending to be me for 4 months+. I know the rules bae, if you feel that strongly about this take your worthless screens to ban appeals and make a report although the admins will tell you the same thing.

And yeah you're right, terrorist kebab is a joke. The reason you find it offensive is because of your nationalities struggle with terrorists etc something boring like that, as has mine lmfao. Is Turkey the only country that has dealt and lost service men to organised terrorist groups or something, my country men went on tour during the heat of the middle east since 9/11 as have service men and women of my new home and a country I hold dear, the UK. What is actually the problem?

This literally all comes from saying 'terrorist kebab'. Please stop now because it bores me having to respond to this dumb ass thread and it probably hurts the admins heads more because they have to actually try to approach this seriously and it's just a waste of their time. Let it be dead, for their sake and so you don't cry I will never bring up kebabs of any sort if I see you on the server, you get special treatment from Queen Mother EggJuice <3

''Queen Mother Egg'' omg u have real mentall ilness. Anyway, Are we going to try to compare the losses and struggle of the United Kingdom and Turkey against the terrorists? In your country, babies, teachers killed by terrorists? I'm telling you this, but I don't expect the slightest respect from you, because I think you're a hater.